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Post by 0xym0ronic on Dec 11, 2010 5:53:45 GMT -5
I'll put it short.
They'll live, so long as they stay intact, and their soul stays with them and is not interfered with.
Over time they'll give in to wear and tear, but as stated by ShadowFox, if they can maintain themselves, they'll be alright. Then again, if not maintained, to the point of rust and dirt gathered on a partly decayed body, they won't die technically, just be crippled to the point where they can't move (or have extreme difficulty moving, if anything).
So if all of these things are in check, I'd say...a very long time. Thousands of years, perhaps.
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Post by JuliaPhobia on Dec 14, 2010 22:39:54 GMT -5
My view is that they can live perhaps as long as a human, but usually expire from decay/accident/soul suction etc after 15-20 years.
Deaths a stitchpunk can expire from: -Soul Suction- Self explanitory. -Beheading- like a human, in order to breath, they have a tube connecting to their mechanical lungs/heart/major gears to their artificial brains. If that tube is cut, they die within seconds (or minutes). -Decay- Nothing lasts forever, and they eventually begin to rust. Unless they have an anti rusting solution, they can die from this like a person dies of cancer. once their skeleton rots away, their soul, now no longer contained in the body, leaves and goes to the big factory in the sky. -Loss of major gears/mechanical organs- Self explanitory. While the loss of a leg or arm won't kill them, loss of the mechanical heart of lung with surely be the end of them. -Explosion-Self explanitory. -Exposure- Like a human will freeze to death, being in freezing temperature will freeze their gears, mechanical organs, and artifical brain. This causes them to die of either being brain dead and not breathing. -Drowning- Simple, no air, no life. they could maybe also short circut and be electrified. -Crushed- self explanitory. -Fall from a high heigth- This will cause them to have injuries beyond repair and they will die eventually. And that's it, I guess. A stabbing, so long as it doesn't hit major gears/mechanical organs, will not kill them.
Aging: -Stitchpunks do not age like humans. As you can deter from the the movie, 1 and 2 and clearly elders, yet 3 and 4 are youngsters, meaning age , if brought to life by a human, depends on what the creator chooses or remembers: if it remembers life as a child or desires a young stitchpunk, then it will be so. They age mentallyafter being brought to life; you could be and look younger than the twins, yet act like an adult. -Stitchpunks born from two stitchpunk parents, however are slightly different. They change into a different body of a certain age when they feel ready, if they wish to that is. They age 2-4 years faster (mentally) than a human. Meaning, a stitchpunk, born of two stitchpunk parents, can reach the human age 5 in just two years. Like a Sim in the Sims series, they are certain age group- baby, toddler, child, teenager, adult and elder. Once they reach the adult stage, they no longer need to move bodies and no longer age 2-4 years faster. From then on, they age like a stitchpunk made from a human.
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Post by welcomehome on Dec 16, 2010 2:18:57 GMT -5
Perhaps at an old enough age they just get tired and want to move on, and so give their soul to a new body maybe? I'm not sure about soul recycling... but when you said "they get tired" etc;... it made me think of the end of Watership Down (book title is blacked out to prevent spoilerage, though in reverse) where the main character kind of just goes to sleep, and the book says something like "He saw no need to keep his body, so he just stepped out of it" or something like that. My thoughts on the stitchpunk lifespan is immortal until/unless there are mechanical/soul issues. Example: My personal fanon describes the Stitchpunk mechanism to be like a human body - they have a mechanical heart and lungs, mostly. So for a stitchpunk to die mechanically, their heart or lungs may have failed or been destroyed. Soul issues would include the soul chamber being smashed beyond repair or, obviously, if the soul has been sucked out. And there's my short novella of an opinion.
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Post by Annadesu on Dec 18, 2010 21:22:37 GMT -5
Well, if you have the belief that the soul can't be destroyed, then it's safe to say they never REALLY die. But the body can eventually fade away, I think.
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Post by Inkweaver on Dec 18, 2010 21:50:39 GMT -5
wow, these are all good points, so now I wanna bring up something else. It's on the same topic, but I don't think people usually discuss it, although they think of it a lot.
"Stitchpunk Heaven."
My good friend made a stamp that said "There is no Stitchpunk Heaven" but she really likes making stamps that piss people off.
We know the spirits explode into the clouds, but I don't think that's the same as "passing on."
Anyway, what do you guys think?
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Post by -WereZibby- on Dec 19, 2010 0:31:27 GMT -5
My theory is kind of like what ShadowFox and Anna said; I don't think Stitchpunks have a lifespan, nor do I think they age, as long as they have their souls. They'll probably start to slow down due to technical conditions, but they'll live on until their souls are removed from their bodies somehow. Besides, I'm pretty sure that's what they're created for after humanity is wiped out
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Post by 6&7/MLP Fan on Dec 19, 2010 22:44:30 GMT -5
Stitchpunk Heaven.... I feel it might be the same as regular heaven where other souls go after the body dies ^^
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Post by Inkweaver on Dec 19, 2010 22:46:59 GMT -5
Interesting...for some reason I feel as if they can't go to heaven until their all dead, and therefore a full soul.
Oh, btw hows rust coming along?
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Post by Bane on Dec 21, 2010 0:57:21 GMT -5
WHOA... I don't have much to put in but I NEVER THOUGHT OF HALF OF THIS! This is absolutely amazing! I am so happy I decided to read this, so much to think about and put in fics and RPs!
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Post by Inkweaver on Dec 21, 2010 7:18:19 GMT -5
thank's bane! Means a lot to hear you say that.
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Post by crazydiary86 on Dec 27, 2010 17:19:33 GMT -5
I don't know how one can live stitchpunk. In my FF "Rebirth" 9, 7 and the twins are still alive after 150 years. I don't think of natural causes of death, However, during the project's story, I assumed that natural death can occur when the soul leaves the body of his will. in history, 9 said that many of them created by Stitchpunk, are just dead with no external or internal damage. Perhaps because the transfer / connecting body and soul was not perfect or because they wanted. And this may also be a cause of infant death. Don't forget that this is something that still happens in the world. so it may be very likely. Rust can be a good reason for death.
I would have a theory to share with you. is my theory on the growth of Stitchpup or child Stitchpunk. Many of you have suggested that the transition from one body to another a small Stitchpunk is due to the willingness to do so. But I have a different theory: the soul may behave like a human body and grow normally but with a slower time. When a stitchpunk needs a larger body, the child may feel strong and violent pains throughout the body. As a first step would be small local pain, easily ignored. But the more time passes the pain becomes stronger until it becomes unbearable. Can also cause loss of body control and insomnia, with later schizophrenia if it lasts too long time. The only solution to stop the pain is to move the soul in other body.
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Post by Annadesu on Dec 28, 2010 22:48:01 GMT -5
Maybe the souls preserve them somewhat? And once the soul leaves, by force or by other causes, it causes the body to decay faster? Just a thought. XD
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Post by Prophet on Dec 29, 2010 14:50:03 GMT -5
Not to get off topic, but I think it's about time I throw in my theory.
For their lifespan, it depends on the age they start with when they are created. Younger Stitchpunks such as the twins and 6 would live for a long time, while elder Stitchpunks such as 1 and 2 would only live for a small time. I believe that they age differently from humans, but have a similar lifespan. The longest a Stitchpunk could live would be around twice the lifespan of a human.
As for how they can die, I've taken some serious thought into this. I believe that Stitchpunks need two things to live. The first is a soul, while the second is a vital mechanism that for lack of a better term will be called a "heart" as it's vital for one to live. Without the soul or "heart", a Stitchpunk would die. They can't live without the other. If the soul is ripped out, they die. If the "heart" is removed or heavily damaged, they die.
However, there are other ways they can die. Like in my fanfic Nightingale, prolonged exposure to rain and/or snow will cause the inner workings of a Stitchpunk to rust and fail over time. Falling from great hights can also kill them, as it will damage most of their body beyond repair.
There's my two cents on the matter.
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Post by Inkweaver on Dec 29, 2010 14:59:47 GMT -5
Do you mean heart symbolically or like there's an actual part? Since I'm guessing the soul chamber links to the soul part and not the heart.
Then theres the brain, we never know whats inside their head, not even in the schematics. Because for humans the things you can't live without are I think:
Brain Heart Lungs Kidneys Liver?
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Post by ~*~ShadowFox~*~ on Dec 29, 2010 20:34:50 GMT -5
I can see stitchpunks dying from a high fall, but . . . because their bodies are made of metal and not organic material, I believe that they can sustain less injury from a taller height than their blood-and-flesh counterparts.
How high, though? I'd say from the roof of a building would give them a pretty bad smack, and they'd be bed-ridden for awhile. Tallest I can see them dying from would be . . . probably the watchtower. That's pretty high.
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