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Post by 6&7/MLP Fan on Nov 24, 2010 14:56:04 GMT -5
What happened outside the context of the movie?
Like, how did the mom and baby end up in the car and died like that?
How a doll head came to be inside the Factory?
What sort of cat head the Catbeast's skull is from, cuz I think it's too big for a housecat skull.
What happened to the remaining machines once the Fabmac was shut down? Did they all shut down, did they fight amongst themselves for control? Did they just wander around till they ran out of power?
How the Chancellor was killed, and if the dead soldier/guy in the movie WAS the Chancellor?
Questions like these that have no clear-cut answer, but have plenty of theories surrounding them.
Post up them questions, answers, and theories!
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Post by Cake & Railroad on Nov 24, 2010 15:02:44 GMT -5
Hmm... about the mum and the baby... She probably tried to escape but was killed.
And about the Machines... I believe they just ran out of power.
As for the Chancellor, he must have been killed by the gas or assassinated by some rebel.
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Post by Azvolrien on Nov 24, 2010 17:02:01 GMT -5
I kind of assumed the mother and child were trying to get away in the car but got gassed. They didn't look like they'd been shot.
I think the Cat Beast probably has the skull of a big cat like a leopard or a cougar. Possibly a large lynx considering the film's (arguably) European setting. You're right - it's definitely too big to be a housecat.
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Post by Cake & Railroad on Nov 24, 2010 17:03:51 GMT -5
it's definitely too big to be a housecat. Agreed. The skull's a little long. From what I know, cats have somewhat rounder skulls. |
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Post by Azvolrien on Nov 24, 2010 18:21:48 GMT -5
OK, thanks to a few minutes googling pictures of bones, I have managed to convince myself that the Cat Beast has the skull of a large Eurasian Lynx. Picture-heavy post up ahead. These two pictures give a pretty good idea of the shape of CB's skull.   It's quite long and his eye sockets are medium-sized, proportionally speaking. His teeth, though scary, are reasonably small compared to the rest of his skull. Compare it to these pictures of a domestic cat skull.   The eye sockets are huge considering the size of its face and it is, like StreetSpirit said, quite round. Now compare it to these photos of Eurasian lynx skulls.   The proportions seem about right; it's more oblong in its shape than the domestic cat skull and the eye sockets aren't as big. The teeth seem about right, too; I checked out some photos of cougar and leopard skulls too, and their canine teeth were much bigger than CB's are. The species' range checks out, too. I figure the film takes place in central Europe. Lynxes are extremely rare, but it's possible that a wild specimen could have found its way to the city to scavenge - kind of like all the wildlife that appeared in the ruins around Chernobyl - and was killed at the Factory. It's a bit of a stretch, but I think it's even more unlikely that Mr Fab had access to a museum collection that would have housed the skulls. *dusts off hands* Mystery solved! As to the doll's head on the Seamstress... Well, they joked on the DVD commentary that it got left behind on a factory tour. The last factory tour. *shrug* It adds up. |
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Post by Inkweaver on Nov 24, 2010 19:20:34 GMT -5
I just really want to know why everyone speaks perfect american-accent english.
I mean, I understand that it's an american movie with american actors, but then why didn't acker put it in an american setting?
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Post by BazookaNeon on Nov 24, 2010 19:46:15 GMT -5
That's my question..
Even a bigger question..
Why was it set in the 1900s..
Especially around the time of WWII?
As it states on the 9 website, the "Great World War had just ended, and the economy had been damaged greatly."
The "Great World War" was once WWI's name before WII started, and economies had been damaged after the war.
Then, the Chancellor claimed war using the machines unprovoked..starting another World War..Hitler reference?
As for the machines? My theory is they wandered off, and would come back eventually, which is what I have in my fan sequels
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Post by Zoromon42 on Nov 24, 2010 19:52:37 GMT -5
In the little fan story I have going on in my head right now, I give a clear answer what happened to the chancellor, but it is far to complex to get into right now......actually it isn't, I just don't want to explain.
As for the cat beast.....I think you are right, Az.
I believe the machines simply scattered and ran out of power eventually. But if it will make a nice fan story, then I will believe whatever the author writes.
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Post by Inkweaver on Nov 24, 2010 19:57:33 GMT -5
I just have this gut feeling that if there was a forward movement of the universe ie a sequel, I would think that it would either
A) Continue the story of 9, 7, and the twins
or
B) Move ahead in the future with an entirely new cast in America.
I know I'm probably the only person who thinks this, but there are several movie series where each installment has a new cast.
Also, in an interview Shane had said a sequel would deal with the stitches interacting with the new life. IMO that means Stitchpunks vs real animals, or protecting plants from machines.
This brings me to another question. It was never decided if the rain had soul bits or microorganisms. If it's the first, what kind of affect does that play? Does giving dirt a soul grow grass? I don't think so. In my fic I had it that the rain brings whatever it touches to life. This gave me a whole new race, the "Others."
Idk, the fact that 9 has all these questions to it is part of what makes it a great universe for a fandom
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Post by 6&7/MLP Fan on Nov 24, 2010 21:58:01 GMT -5
Idk, the fact that 9 has all these questions to it is part of what makes it a great universe for a fandom Exactly! ^^ |
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Post by Annadesu on Nov 24, 2010 23:17:05 GMT -5
Like, how did the mom and baby end up in the car and died like that? The thing that always interested me about the mother and child was... they weren't driving the car. Whoever drove the car didn't die in the car, because their body wasn't in there. The driver's side door was wide open, which is what 9 was looking through in the movie. It seems like the driver left the other two there to die, and took off on foot. It's kinda depressing... D: |
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Post by NightRunner on Nov 25, 2010 1:49:32 GMT -5
Like, how did the mom and baby end up in the car and died like that? The thing that always interested me about the mother and child was... they weren't driving the car. Whoever drove the car didn't die in the car, because their body wasn't in there. The driver's side door was wide open, which is what 9 was looking through in the movie. It seems like the driver left the other two there to die, and took off on foot. It's kinda depressing... D: Huh, I never noticed that. D8 That is indeed sad. [/size] |
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Post by 6&7/MLP Fan on Nov 25, 2010 2:41:05 GMT -5
Well, here's a disturbing thought...
If the mother and child died of the gas, but the driver was able to run away for a bit...
And the "Chancellor's" body was the only dead human on the ground near there...
Perhaps his wife and kid was in the car?
oO
Abandoned his country AND his family
This just got REALLY deep
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Post by Mel on Nov 25, 2010 4:51:52 GMT -5
Well, here's a disturbing thought... If the mother and child died of the gas, but the driver was able to run away for a bit... And the "Chancellor's" body was the only dead human on the ground near there... Perhaps his wife and kid was in the car? oO Abandoned his country AND his family This just got REALLY deep I was JUST thinking that! Like, maybe the car crashed while they were trying to escape, and he abandoned them to go after the scientist. That, there. that is what I love about this movie. It seems a bit half-baked, when you really analyze it, you see that the writers actually give a very subtle but consistent life outside of the story that a lot of films don't. It's all very realistic. Anyway, with the machines, I think that can be answered with the very end of the deleted scene "Throw Me the End of Your Rope", with the concept that all the machines were connected and controlled by the B.R.A.I.N.. So if it went offline, then everything else did. Even though the writers kind of abandoned that concept in the actual movie, but I think that is what they originally intended. When i saw that deleted scene, those two things kinda clicked for me. Given that, what really happened is mostly up for interpretation. |
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Post by 6&7/MLP Fan on Nov 30, 2010 3:40:57 GMT -5
Heh, I was thinking of what 1 said in the movie:
Slowly, the world grew silent...but if the Fabmac was shut down (which the Rebels apparently succeeded in doing) and they were all connected, then everything would get silent all at once.
I think this means that either humans still lived for a time, or the machines kept going on their killing ways until they ran out of fuel/batteries.
Heh, imagine a machine war breaking out in the 50 yrs after the Fabmac was shut down as the machines try to scratch out who's now in charge
^^
Yeah...I'd stay hidden in the church too
XD
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