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Post by Tammy on Sept 6, 2011 0:16:13 GMT -5
So there has been a lot of artwork with stitchpunks who were "bleeding"oil. I think it's an interesting idea that they can bleed, but I always wondered, how does it happen? if they don't really have a circulatory system and a heart, how does it happen? What are your thoughts and ideas? share 'em.
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Post by Bane on Sept 6, 2011 7:26:24 GMT -5
Well, 27 and I worked that in very simply. Basically, there are a few central oil lines, much like a car would have, that help keep them running that are inside of the "puffed" space of their fabric (the concept art did show their fabric was stuffed a bit, or that there was a second layer).
They're very small and very thin, and not on their arms or legs and more or less focused in their chest cavity. But that is just our version, a lot of versions I know don't have oil lines, and I don't even know if they are canon. XD
I know Clover and ShadowFox have a COMPLETELY different method called "Soul Tinting" but I am not entirely sure how that works myself.
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Post by ~*~ShadowFox~*~ on Sept 6, 2011 9:23:36 GMT -5
I know for a fact Soul Tinting isn't canon. XD Otherwise it would've been in the movie when 7's leg got impaled, when 5 lost his eye, when 9 ripped his arm, so on and so forth.
Alchemy is a pseudo-science, meaning 'false' science. Also, because it is an older, more 'ancient' science, I like to imagine that alchemy follows basic biology, physics, and the like. If the stitchpunks have a soul which follows this primitive science, they'll have 'blood' like organic creatures.
The 'blood' is really their soul. When they get a wound that 'cuts' the soul (which in theory works like skin layers - the 'soul' layer is directly under the 'fabric' layer), they'll bleed. Instead of having green 'blood', the soul reacts with the air, changing its color and tinting it red. This is because of the alchemy - the reaction occurs because alchemy attempts to mimic the true science. When the wound is first made, the color change can be briefly seen.
I have a bunch of other theories about the soul, it's healing and bleeding, but that's just Soul Tinting. 83
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Post by Sock on Sept 6, 2011 9:39:48 GMT -5
^ That's a really neat theory, Shadow! :3 I always thought they'd bleed oil or something, but after remembering that old picture Anna drew of 1-9 drinking/setting fire to oil, I can't stop imagining them all being vampires. Which is bad. And illogical. D: I suppose they could switch to drinking gasoline fluid...
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Post by Jazz on Sept 6, 2011 10:54:53 GMT -5
I like Bane's theory a lot for fanfiction and art reasons (XD), but I remember also reading a story once where the characters just had to lubricate themselves every once in a while with some oil in order to keep from stiffening up, etc. I suppose they could also drink oil in small quantities if there were some kind of passage in their throats that would lead to these veins of oil. Otherwise it would just drip through them and probably make a mess all over the place! As for how the oil circulates through the bodies...I haven't a foggy clue. Some kind of heart simulator ticker thing or perhaps just soul power would be my best guess. Bane? What's you guys' theory say on the matter? As a small aside, I find it funny that the reason we're so curious and stymied as to how this works for stitchpunks is because we don't have any experience with any other forms of circulation -- we don't even know if such a thing is possible! I think we need to meet some alien lifeforms who function differently so we can get out of our box.
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Post by Annadesu on Sept 6, 2011 11:16:44 GMT -5
Drunk on Oil should not be taken seriously. ;D VAMPIRES OH NOES. I've always thought of it like a car; Over time, the oil breaks down, and the filter gets clogged, so you have to change both to keep it running. XD Having those metal joints hit each other would probably do damage, like it would in a real machine. But obviously, on a much smaller scale than a car, and they have that "soul juice" to help them, as well.
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Post by Bane on Sept 7, 2011 3:30:57 GMT -5
That is exactly how ours works Anna! XD
Jazz, mostly it's like a "mechanical heart", which is a series of gears and small devices that keep the others and the oil lines running. They have wires that run inside of their skeletons, but that is a completely separate system.
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Post by Tammy on Sept 7, 2011 9:00:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I like the idea of them having some kind of heart to keep the oil flowing, so it doesn't, like, get all old and dry out (does oil dry out?)
I also came up with a name for the "blood" oil: Hemo oil, since "hemo" means "blood." And it's a dark red color.
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Post by Sock on Sept 7, 2011 11:57:16 GMT -5
Drunk on Oil should not be taken seriously. ;D VAMPIRES OH NOES. Haha, I know ^^ "dur wht u meen stichpunks arnt vampurs min is so a vampir cuz *srs explanation is srs and should be taken srsly because it's srs goes here* dur ur dum" ( OR) "dur stichpunks cantbled dey dun hav organz cuz *srs explanation is srs and should be taken srsly because it's srs goes here* dur ur dum" "ANNA DREW DRUNK ON OIL. YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID."
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Post by Castoro Chiaro on Sept 7, 2011 20:06:29 GMT -5
See, since oil was a consumable substance in the '9 United' universe, we decided it'd be less creepy if we changed the type of blood we gave our stitchies. Iiii cannot recall the source of the term -- I wanna say it was Final, but I can't recall bluhh -- but stitchpunk blood in that setting was referred to as "plasmatics". I imagine it functioned a little differently than oil, had more alchemic properties to it...
I didn't come up with it, though, so I can't say much more than this. I always thought it was cool, though.
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Post by 6&7/MLP Fan on Sept 8, 2011 23:27:42 GMT -5
I like the theory of them bleeding oil when they're wounded deeply, as if it were a blood vessel getting hit.
Also, as for old fluids wearing out...I wrote a story about that...many brains were broken *shot shot shot* XD;
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Post by Bivile on Sept 12, 2011 15:50:51 GMT -5
I mainly just use the "blood" for asthetic effect and for the "ew" reaction when I put in something really gorey that a get an odd satifaction form doing. Mostly, I'm just practicing for real blood and gore with the sacks of fabric, so I take biology into account rather than mechanics. It's not working out so well. But on the subject of mechanics, I see the oil (which, to me, I imagine to have a more tar-like cosistancy) as a sort of lifeforce, such as a cericulatory system. Sometimes electrical currents are used for a criculitory system, but I see them more a nervous: only for movement and trassmitting of signals across the body. I prefur good ol' "blood" rather than having some fireworks fly out of a wound myself. I guess if we want to try to insert it into a canon sence, it could be a way of trasmitting energy and the lack of it in the movie could be because there are only a small number of major arteries you have to hit. 7 could have bleed internally. They must have some really effective cleaner, because all the delcious blood would probably leave stains. I know we all know for a fact that stitchblood is not canon, but that doesn't stop the onslaught of babehz, so why should I stop the blood raining down on my face like a spring shower? Yum. As for my theory; It's like humans, only with oil. Now let's let our sadists have some fun. On a similar note; stitch-intestines? I love me some intestines.
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Post by cattail97 on Jan 21, 2012 22:22:19 GMT -5
They don't bleed. It's all there in the movie.
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Post by JuliaPhobia on Jan 21, 2012 22:35:10 GMT -5
^ To add to that, oil would pose a substantial threat of becoming more flammable. It's bad enough that they are combustible fabric-people, but having oil within while living in a potential fire-zone is even worse. Like when 2 lit the flame at the beginning of the film. Were he to actually have 'oil blood', he would have been set ablaze.
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Post by cattail97 on Jan 21, 2012 23:32:02 GMT -5
Omg... that would have been SO sad... I love 2.
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