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Post by --[Evayo-∞-Infinity]-- on Jul 14, 2009 9:51:32 GMT -5
Could be... Who's operating the cannon, I wonder?
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Post by Jabberwocky on Jul 14, 2009 19:40:05 GMT -5
rotflol It would be hilarious if Fabricator accidently sets the canon off himself XD
I was trying to figure how a stitchpunk could set off a canon and I thought that maybe Mr. Fab picked it up and blew a chunk out of his face, gets mad and chucks it at the stitchpunks.
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Post by Rabbit2009 on Jul 16, 2009 17:44:25 GMT -5
LOL!!!!!!!!! *dies from laughter*
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Dixi
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Post by Dixi on Aug 6, 2009 2:03:54 GMT -5
We discussed with 3Dasha Fabrication Mashine yesterday. I think that after 2's death it tookhis main trait - curiosity. And when every time it kills a ragdoll, it takes doll's main trait take in main trait. I came to this conclusion because Fabricator has a goal - to be as intelligent as the Scientist. Fab's not evil, it just wants to be more intelligent.
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Post by Mokyn on Aug 7, 2009 9:50:22 GMT -5
rotflol It would be hilarious if Fabricator accidently sets the canon off himself XD I was trying to figure how a stitchpunk could set off a canon.. They could if they have a plan! If 9 beats the machine by strength, I will be in a fit of rage at the end of the movie. That's not the point of him that he's strong, it's that he's a quick-thinker, able to do what the others haven't. Ahem, back on topic... I went onto IGN the other day and saw they had this special promotion thing talking about the backstory of the movie. This worries me about whether the movie explains it that well, but i read it anyway. All I could think of as I read this was, "Don't stress out the giant robot, kiddies. They'll have the worst emotional breakdown ever."
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Post by Annadesu on Aug 7, 2009 12:34:17 GMT -5
I'm going to go ahead and say the promotional thing explained it/summarized it badly Or was forced to leave out major spoilers. That's a pretty important part of the movie, I don't think Shane would give us 2 sentences about it and call it a day. Also, I can see 7 being the one to shoot the canon. Just the thought of her pulling some lever back, and letting out this evil laugh "BURN, BABY. BURN"... it makes me happy inside. It probably won't happen, but I can dream.
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Post by Mokyn on Aug 7, 2009 13:13:17 GMT -5
"BURN, BABY, BURN!"
I would love to see that!
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Post by WingedBeast on Aug 21, 2009 19:46:28 GMT -5
i love the fab and hate it at the same time.I love it because its kool looking and the claws and has the ability to suck souls out.I hate it because it kills my beloved rag dolls.
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Post by Rabbit2009 on Aug 24, 2009 0:41:05 GMT -5
I think there is more to the Fabrication Machine than just merely a soul-sucking, megalomanical machine. I think it might be an excellent case of Rampancy.
Rampancy happens when an A.I has gone insane. There are a variety of reasons why it can become rampant from the reason of self-preservation (think HAL2000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey, he tried to kill off his human masters because he heard that they were going to shut him down) to megalomania (so cliched) to simply a virus.
Rampancy is divided into four stages:
1) Melancholia/Depression: This stage usually goes unnoticed. In Fab's case, this might have happened when it was separated from the Scientist and forced, by the Chancellor, to create mass-produced war machines. The sudden transition from one master to the other might have triggered some confusion or even distress in the newly-born A.I's mind.
2) Anger: This is usually the longest and most prominent stage. The beserk stage. After enough time had passed, Fab decided to destroy its human masters; thus initiating the 'bloody slaughter'. Realizing that its potential was taken advantage of by its puny human masters, Fab must have decided that since humans could only destroy eachother: why not destroy these weak, ill-disposed organisms who are unable to take care of themselves. Some say that when an A.I is in the ANGER stage, it experiences a form of catharsis: a release of pent up emotions experienced during the MELANCHOLIA stage. Retribution against the Chancellor for being taken away from its creator perhaps?
3) Jealousy: I'm insinuating that this is the current stage. Once humanity has been rendered extinct, the Fabrication Machine achieved its goal of systematically destroying its old masters as well as their followers. However, life has not been wiped out. Not yet. 9 ragdolls have been left (ironically by Fab's old creator) to preserve the last traces of humanity left in the waste lands. Now that the Fabrication Machine has reached a stage of high, god-like power (it can create its own armies, steal souls from the living), it will make sure that all threats are eradicated.......with all due force as necessary. Hence the name JEALOUSY: the A.I only lives to preserve its power and destroy anything that dares challenge it.
4) Meta-stability: the final and rarest stage of all. After watching enough clips, trailers, and promo material, I think it's best to assume that Fab does not reach this stage. Meta-stability is when an A.I obtains a sense of humanity. It acts and thinks like a human: experiences emotions (for example, remorse for the damage it has done): and ultimately admits that it will die soon. It would be interesting if Fab ever reaches this stage...........then again 9 would be a completely different story.
The term "rampancy" was coined by the creators of Halo and Marathon. I do not claim this to be a topic in robo-psychology or cognitive neuroscience. I'm just stating my observation and opinion here.
My brain hurts from thinking too much.
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Post by yoyobionicle on Aug 24, 2009 0:52:30 GMT -5
I think there is more to the Fabrication Machine than just merely a soul-sucking, megalomanical machine. I think it might be an excellent case of Rampancy. Rampancy happens when an A.I has gone insane. There are a variety of reasons why it can become rampant from the reason of self-preservation (think HAL2000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey, he tried to kill off his human masters because he heard that they were going to shut him down) to megalomania (so cliched) to simply a virus. Rampancy is divided into four stages: 1) Melancholia/Depression: This stage usually goes unnoticed. In Fab's case, this might have happened when it was separated from the Scientist and forced, by the Chancellor, to create mass-produced war machines. The sudden transition from one master to the other might have triggered some confusion or even distress in the newly-born A.I's mind. 2) Anger: This is usually the longest and most prominent stage. The beserk stage. After enough time had passed, Fab decided to destroy its human masters; thus initiating the 'bloody slaughter'. Realizing that its potential was taken advantage of by its puny human masters, Fab must have decided that since humans could only destroy eachother: why not destroy these weak, ill-disposed organisms who are unable to take care of themselves. Some say that when an A.I is in the ANGER stage, it experiences a form of catharsis: a release of pent up emotions experienced during the MELANCHOLIA stage. Retribution against the Chancellor for being taken away from its creator perhaps? 3) Jealousy: I'm insinuating that this is the current stage. Once humanity has been rendered extinct, the Fabrication Machine achieved its goal of systematically destroying its old masters as well as their followers. However, life has not been wiped out. Not yet. 9 ragdolls have been left (ironically by Fab's old creator) to preserve the last traces of humanity left in the waste lands. Now that the Fabrication Machine has reached a stage of high, god-like power (it can create its own armies, steal souls from the living), it will make sure that all threats are eradicated.......with all due force as necessary. Hence the name JEALOUSY: the A.I only lives to preserve its power and destroy anything that dares challenge it. 4) Meta-stability: the final and rarest stage of all. After watching enough clips, trailers, and promo material, I think it's best to assume that Fab does not reach this stage. Meta-stability is when an A.I obtains a sense of humanity. It acts and thinks like a human: experiences emotions (for example, remorse for the damage it has done): and ultimately admits that it will die soon. It would be interesting if Fab ever reaches this stage...........then again 9 would be a completely different story. The term "rampancy" was coined by the creators of Halo and Marathon. I do not claim this to be a topic in robo-psychology or cognitive neuroscience. I'm just stating my observation and opinion here. My brain hurts from thinking too much. Did any of this come from Issac Asimov's stories? He always gave such soul, an assumption of personality and self-awareness to his robots. I had never seen such emotional robots in fiction until I read his works. This is a fascinating theory-- all your thought deserves an exalt! The only trouble is that Shane described the Fabrication Machine as a thing with "No soul, no heart"... but yet 9experiment.com called it "angry", which fits well this rampancy theory. Perhaps Shane's talk of the Fabrication Machine having "No Heart" might just be referring to his vicious behavior.
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Post by reptileus on Aug 24, 2009 18:25:26 GMT -5
I noticed in the clip "awakening the machine" that Fab was shut off until 9 accidently placed the talisman in it and turned it on. Why was it turned off in the first place.
Another interesting idea of my is the the so called B.R.A.I.N. is another machine different from Fab... perhaps their journey becomes a quest to find B.R.A.I.N. and shut fab off. At the same time I notice on one of the web sites 3 pictures of B.R.A.I.N. and how in each picture it's a different color... 3 brains perhaps?
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Post by --[Evayo-∞-Infinity]-- on Sept 1, 2009 14:38:48 GMT -5
Another interesting idea of my is the the so called B.R.A.I.N. is another machine different from Fab... perhaps their journey becomes a quest to find B.R.A.I.N. and shut fab off. At the same time I notice on one of the web sites 3 pictures of B.R.A.I.N. and how in each picture it's a different color... 3 brains perhaps? Well, when part of the Fab's cage is blown off, you can see the original B.R.A.I.N. underneath all the nodes... So it's kind of a given that The Chancellor built Fab around the original B.R.A.I.N. model.
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Post by Jabberwocky on Sept 2, 2009 9:42:00 GMT -5
That's what I always thought Eva. That B.R.A.I.N. was built onto and turned into the Fab machine. Something like that. I know some people already saw this in the Spoiler Room but I put it here for those who don't go there.
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Post by Cake & Railroad on Nov 22, 2010 13:11:41 GMT -5
I was wondering... Compared to a human, how big is the Fabricator? I assume a full grown human is as big as the cage which holds the B.R.A.I.N., probably a little taller, but I am really not sure. What do you think?
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Post by Annadesu on Nov 23, 2010 12:37:19 GMT -5
Well, the BRAIN himself was able to fit on a table top. The scientist was trying to grab him away when the soldiers ran into the room to take him. Well after he was fitted into a new contraption, he picked up a human skeleton to make the Winged Beast with. So, I would say he would take up the entire roof of a Gymnasium, or something like that. o.o;
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