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Aug 28, 2011 3:11:06 GMT -5
Post by prettystitchpunk on Aug 28, 2011 3:11:06 GMT -5
Happy birthday to my 2nd fave character! Love you very much 6! (snuggles him tight)
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Aug 28, 2011 10:07:42 GMT -5
Post by WarriorSparrow on Aug 28, 2011 10:07:42 GMT -5
*hugs 6* Happy Birthday, you little prophetic artist!
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Aug 28, 2011 12:37:26 GMT -5
Post by TopsyKret on Aug 28, 2011 12:37:26 GMT -5
Happy Birthday Crazy pants!
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Aug 28, 2011 12:50:17 GMT -5
Post by deadgirlspainting on Aug 28, 2011 12:50:17 GMT -5
Happy Birthday 6! *Gives 6 a hug, and then some ink and paper and draws with him*
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Aug 28, 2011 15:06:51 GMT -5
Post by Patchlamb on Aug 28, 2011 15:06:51 GMT -5
Ehehe, happy burffday 6! oUo
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Aug 28, 2011 18:37:00 GMT -5
Post by Sock on Aug 28, 2011 18:37:00 GMT -5
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, 6! X3
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Aug 28, 2011 19:48:42 GMT -5
Post by ~{Eli-the-Panda}~ on Aug 28, 2011 19:48:42 GMT -5
HAPPY BIRFDAY 6
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Bivile
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Sept 13, 2011 10:59:58 GMT -5
Post by Bivile on Sept 13, 2011 10:59:58 GMT -5
I realize I've beaten this horse to death on DeviantArt already, but I am a "new member" so I can voice my opinion after the crowds of opinon (usually favorable) have ceased. Nah nah nah nah ~ As this poor fan service victim. How I bitterly dislike thee. 6 is at the bottom of the list of my favorite characters and I can totally justify myself on this one; I think 6 got left behind along with the twins and 2 in the process of character development in this average little film. His character is bland and largly unexplained. How'd he get his information? Is the a mystic? Did the talk with the toy maker? Meth addict? (I'm not lying. He shows quite a few symtoms. I blame Health 101 for this theory) They never explain it. All we're really left to go on is that he just knows to go back to the room for no reason and that he probably doesn't even realize what he's talking about. On the subject of his personalody, I was interested for maybe three minuets after the movie, then I realized he was EXACTLY like every other artistic madman ever made ever. Zippity-doo-dah. This brings me to another point; Why is he metally ill? Furthermore, what illness is it? (or what illness is it based on?) He seemed autistic to me. The key? Why does he have it? (I KNOW it was explained in deleted sences, but that STILL didn't have alot of insight) Again, we never get an explaination. Explain, movie! EXPLAIN! In summary, I don't understand how this little plothole managed to get so many fans. I'd hate to say it, but I think it might because he's "OMG INSANE AND AN ARTIST LIKE ME LOL". I can understand if a fan likes him because his plotholes give way for reasonable theories or they are facinated mental illnesses (OMG INSANTIY ain't one of them. That's not proper phycology. You're doing it wrong, boi.). But just liking him because he's "crazy", "different" or "can draw" is really, really shallow. I don't hate 6. Though I do dislike him and the fans that like him for no real reason, I do take pity in the character. I think 6 deserved more development, if for the sake of picky moviegoers like me who can't stand to see shitty characters. More screentime? Not nessiarily. They could have gotten these answers in rather than showing 8 oh so hal-ariously getting high. I believe he was defenatly more interesting and 3-demensional, but his character was cut off a bit for time constriants. Even yet, I think even if he was given a backstory and better dialouge (His dialouge made me long for my favorite Shapespearian actor even more. To be bland; 6's dialouge sucked. So did most of the movie's, accept for 1's, the Scientist and even 9's at times), I still think he would have just been okay. Just okay. Not the best character like some OTHER people seem to think (*epic pouty lip*). Just average. (*cough* like the rest of the movie. *cough*) I was dissapointed because I was imgining him to be interesting: a bit like Snitter from Plauge Dogs (THAT would have been awsome...and fucking scray). But no. I get a watered down Edward Scissorhands. Woopdy-freakin-doo. His million OC wives hardly help my opinion of him, but it's not the character's fault, I know. And that is just about that. Maybe being a OMG H8TOR might kick start this topic again. I'd be interested to hear (logical) theories on the character, even though I don't like him much. So who thinks he was dropped on his head?
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Sept 13, 2011 13:10:46 GMT -5
Post by Bane on Sept 13, 2011 13:10:46 GMT -5
While I... do not quite agree with how you appear to be treating his prospect of possible mental illness (I would prefer if you were just a bit more respectful in that regard), liking or not liking 6 is your decision and opinion and I will respect that myself. I know not everyone will like a character for the same reasons, or dislike them for that matter.
I, personalty, will admit that 6 and 2 and 8 got the short end of the stick in character development, however I felt we had more than enough to get a decent feeling to all of them.
6 is one of my favorite characters, and always has been, partly because we do not know much about him. He is a mysterious character. True, being an artist helps me along, but what I seemed to be drawn to most was that he had very good intentions, but did not have a way to meet them under the circumstances, and that made him very sympathetic in my eyes. I find his possible insanity or mental issues rather interesting as well, but that is also not one of the key factors, it's just a helping hand into his unusual and mysterious nature. I personally think that he was not always the way we saw him, and that over the years he had a slow decent from being just a bit off to... well, being 6. I like not knowing much about him, it lets us think of possibilities and mull little details over in our minds.
But that is how I see it. I also do not think he was "dropped on his head", nor do I find the terminology fitting to anyone who might have metal issues. As I have stated, you opinion is your own, and I am perfectly acceptable toward that...but... could you please be a might more tactful in the future?
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Sept 13, 2011 13:26:13 GMT -5
Post by --[Evayo-∞-Infinity]-- on Sept 13, 2011 13:26:13 GMT -5
I have to agree wholeheartedly with Bane on this one. I don't think it's fair to treat the issue of mental illness lightly, whether for a fictional character or not. That aside, his mentality is definitely one of 6's most becoming aspects, and while he was significantly lacking in development, I got a good enough sense of who he was and what he was to be satisfied with his presence.
Reading through the original screenplay again, it's even more apparent to me that 6 was originally going to be a much more developed character before he was cut down to simplicity. He had much more interesting dialogue, even during his delusions ("The sky is breaking" is one of my favorite 6 lines from the screenplay, hands-down), and the idea of his key having belonged to the music box was much easier to understand. That in mind, the Blu-ray version's Picture-in-Picture functionality goes into much more detail on his character and why he is the way he is, so whether you like the way he turned out in the end or not, there's no question that the production team behind the film put a lot more thought into his character than is apparent on the screen.
Maybe it's just me, but I really could care less about whether the movie and its characters were "average." I respond to the vision of Shane Acker and the enthusiasm of his team, and for what they tried to accomplish I have a tremendous deal of respect for, regardless of how it turned out in the end due to typical Hollywood intervention. I might be trailing a little off-topic here, but if only Shane had been allowed to pursue his vision the way he wanted it, the movie would've been perfect. Even though it isn't, I'm perfectly okay with that, because they tried their best to make something special and unique.
But yeah... all of that aside, 6 still remains one of my favorites. I just can't resist those characters that make you wonder. XD
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Sept 13, 2011 13:54:42 GMT -5
Post by Ani on Sept 13, 2011 13:54:42 GMT -5
I always feel it's an immediate warning sign when somebody describes a character as aloof or mysterious, because usually that just means that nobody bothered to explain them or give them any real character in the time that they were there on screen. I honestly have no idea how he was supposed to know about the first room or anything, really, but I imagine that the scientist jammed the talisman in his face screamed that it was important then chucked him out the window into the war zone with the rest of the ragdolls. It doubt it would be that far off from what really happened, I'd wager.
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Sept 13, 2011 14:56:01 GMT -5
Post by Bivile on Sept 13, 2011 14:56:01 GMT -5
I wasn't treating mental illness as something to be ashamed of nor had I implied such. I myself am currently on a sreach to find out if I might be metally ill. Something's not right about me; I simply find it extremely difficult to pick up on social cues. Anyone who thinks they can realate, probably can't, because I mean this social problem is in the deabilitating sence. It's taxing and stressful to speak the right words at the right time for me. I'm not treating mental illness lightly; why would I treat something lightly that I sometimes cry myself to sleep at night over because I was unable to speak properly and don't know why or was yelled at for not picking up on some kind of cue that I was supposed to react to? It's not fun having something and not knowing what it is. Autisum-like diseases are not uncommon in my bloodline and I may or may not have something up with my brain. I, however, am not using this an excuse to be mean. I take responsability for my actions as equal with any other person, even if it might not be my fault. I've fully accepted that soceity might not be fair for me, exspecially in the workplace, where it would effect my sucess on my own. But enough BAWing about myself. I'm serious when I say that 6 does indeed show some metal illness symptoms or, as I've said, a bit like meth addicts. I'm only pointing out that I've noticed this coralation. I see nothing wrong with pointing this out. I'm not slandering autstics, I'm only saying he acts a bit like one. Something wrong with calling 6 autsistic? I think it would make him more real and relatable...and more interesting to boot. In fact, I would find him relatable and would like him if they protrayed it properly.
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Sept 13, 2011 14:58:01 GMT -5
Post by WarriorSparrow on Sept 13, 2011 14:58:01 GMT -5
My personal opinion on how 6 knew about the talisman and all that? He's psychic. I've always had an interest with characters who had psychic abilities (I have quite a few books on the subject), so including 6's little premonition aspects into the film was right up my alley.
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Sept 13, 2011 15:16:09 GMT -5
Post by --[Evayo-∞-Infinity]-- on Sept 13, 2011 15:16:09 GMT -5
The way Shane described him in the P-I-P on the Blu-ray is that he "straddles two different worlds: the real world, and an imaginary dream-world." In a way, I suppose you could look at that as psychic. I seriously don't think that The Scientist really told him much, if anything at all, but it's heavily implied that he had told quite a bit to 1 upon his creation, since he stated in his journal that 1 was "a natural leader." Rather I think 6 might have formed some emotional attachment to that key, creating a much stronger bond to his former memories of being The Scientist... I know I'm probably just fan-wanking here, but whether he was told by the man or not, he somehow knew, most likely through some psychic link, that the stitchpunks originated from The Scientist himself. His problem is that he just can't express his thoughts and ideas effectively.
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Sept 13, 2011 15:35:57 GMT -5
Post by Bane on Sept 13, 2011 15:35:57 GMT -5
I'm serious when I say that 6 does indeed show some metal illness symptoms or, as I've said, a bit like meth addicts. I'm only pointing out that I've noticed this coralation. I see nothing wrong with pointing this out. I'm not slandering autstics, I'm only saying he acts a bit like one. Something wrong with calling 6 autsistic? I think it would make him more real and relatable...and more interesting to boot. In fact, I would find him relatable and would like him if they protrayed it properly. Ignoring your minor tangent (In the future I must as you to stay on topic), let me say that we NEVER said there was anything wrong with that in the slightest. It was HOW you said it that bothered me. Saying he was "dropped on his head", especially now when you say you think this trait made him interesting, made it seem like you meant something entirely different, and exceptionally negative. Just be a tad more careful with your wording, alright? I for one do believe that 6 is autistic, as well as psychic. I did not say this was a bad thing, quite the contrary, I think it's a very interesting trait for him, and it's part of why I like him so much. I think the reason they portrayed it the way they did was because of the circumstances he and the others lived in over the 50 years before the movie. That would have a devastating effect on anyone, mentally stable or not. Those are my thoughts on the mater anyway.
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